tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2918951136804113054.post273803279740610312..comments2023-06-07T11:11:02.474+02:00Comments on Vasco-Caucasian: Etruscan *netś-, *nethś- 'entrails'Octavià Alexandrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14569731729402710400noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2918951136804113054.post-73663544784684367582011-10-26T19:13:01.773+02:002011-10-26T19:13:01.773+02:00Yes, I agree Greek has substrate loanwords from so...Yes, I agree Greek has substrate loanwords from some language related to Minoan. We could call <i>Aegean</i> this family, which would probably also include Etrocypriot. <br /><br />But Etruscan and its nearest relatives (Lemnian, Rhaetic) would belong to a <i>Tyrrhenian</i> group a bit more distantly related. <br /><br />In any case, IMHO these languages would belong to the Vasco-Caucasian macro-family.<br /><br /><i>I am glad I could get you to admit what you did...like trying to squeeze water from a rock...hahaha</i><br />Mi no entender nada.Octavià Alexandrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14569731729402710400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2918951136804113054.post-79737827505089280432011-10-26T14:19:02.192+02:002011-10-26T14:19:02.192+02:00Etruscan also has a Semitic substrate, it is eithe...Etruscan also has a Semitic substrate, it is either Phoenician or Ugaritic.<br /><br />I am glad I could get you to admit what you did...like trying to squeeze water from a rock...hahaha<br /><br />Well, I said that Pre-Greek is Minoan because many have noticed the strong correspondence of words in Pre-Greek with what is known about Minoan. I am not the only or first one to say that Pre-Greek and Minoan are one in the same. Beekes insinuates, but never says what the language is likely to be...he does say it is definitely not Indo-European.AdygheChabadihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02303595735003236434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2918951136804113054.post-79082998928848251922011-10-26T10:01:54.194+02:002011-10-26T10:01:54.194+02:00Nēdús is problematic because it is not a Greek wor...<i>Nēdús is problematic because it is not a Greek word...</i><br />No, it is, as long you can pick it up in any Greek dictionary. But another thing is the question whether it's actually <i>native</i> or not.<br /><br /><i>it is pre-Greek (Minoan) which is why the word in Etruscan looks similar</i><br />I think you mean a pre-Greek language related to Minoan, because Minoan can't actually be "pre-Greek" in a proper sense (Crete isn't mainland Greece).<br /><br />There're also other Greek loanwords in Etruscan.Octavià Alexandrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14569731729402710400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2918951136804113054.post-38791465558553873442011-10-26T03:05:37.406+02:002011-10-26T03:05:37.406+02:00Nēdús is problematic because it is not a Greek wor...Nēdús is problematic because it is not a Greek word...it is pre-Greek (Minoan) which is why the word in Etruscan looks similar<br /><br />See, Robert S. Beekes paper on this about Pre-Greek words in Greek.<br />http://iedo.brillonline.nl/dictionaries/content/greek/loanwords.htmlAdygheChabadihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02303595735003236434noreply@blogger.com