tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2918951136804113054.post3526992399798637509..comments2023-06-07T11:11:02.474+02:00Comments on Vasco-Caucasian: Latin voltur 'vulture' (updated)Octavià Alexandrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14569731729402710400noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2918951136804113054.post-59932824706469066402014-02-06T20:22:10.642+01:002014-02-06T20:22:10.642+01:00Okay, I will be much more careful of that.
In Heb...Okay, I will be much more careful of that.<br /><br />In Hebrew, there is a similar thing concerning <i>bet</i>/ <i>vet</i>.AdygheChabadihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02303595735003236434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2918951136804113054.post-55749608037487143312014-02-06T15:18:22.037+01:002014-02-06T15:18:22.037+01:00I advise you to not confuse graphemes and phonemes...I advise you to not confuse graphemes and phonemes, because ortographic conventions can be misleading, especially in transcriptions from non-Latin scripts. In the Etruscan alphabet, the sign <b>v</b> is identical to Greek <b>F</b> "digamma" (adopted as Latin <b>f</b>), and its value is <b>[w]</b>. Incidentally, before a new sign for <b>f</b> (which apparently represents a bilabial fricative <b>[ɸ]</b>) was invented, archaic Etruscan inscriptions have <b>vh</b> instead.<br /><br />Meanwhile, I've reverted to Moretti's original proposal for Etruscan <b>velθur</b> (the one he proposed for <b>velθ-</b> has no interest and I won't discuss it here), but I'll keep Caucasian <b>*qˀwiɫə</b> for "future use". Octavià Alexandrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14569731729402710400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2918951136804113054.post-14816887067242131022014-02-05T19:44:12.983+01:002014-02-05T19:44:12.983+01:00"Caucasian *GHwV:ɫV ‘a k. of bird (jackdaw, c...<i>"Caucasian *GHwV:ɫV ‘a k. of bird (jackdaw, crow)’, Altaic *kʰú:l´a (~ -o,-u) ‘a k. of big bird’, Yeniseian *kɨla ‘crow’2."</i><br /><br />There are Afroasiatic parallels and Nilo-Saharan parallels. Not sure which way the word traveled though. If the word is Asiatic then Afroasiatic is the source of the Nilo-Saharan words. Meroitic according to Rilly has a similar word.<br /><br /><i>"for which I'd propose a link to Caucasian *qˀwiɫə ‘rock, cliff, stone’, Altaic *kʰó:li ‘lake, basin’."</i><br /><br />Afroasiatic has parallels to this also, especially, in Cushitic. <br /><br /><i>"velθ 'underground, netherworld', velθu-na 'human', velθ-ra 'infernal tunnel' (Moretti), for which I'd propose a link to Caucasian *qˀwiɫə ‘rock, cliff, stone’, Altaic *kʰó:li ‘lake, basin’"</i><br /><br />I am not sure how the voiced labiodental fricative is derived from velars.AdygheChabadihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02303595735003236434noreply@blogger.com